Ejaculation w/o orgasm

[johnblob]

Well if it was that surely you'd feel something. The way I do it is to go slow, relax and stroke slowly, and not to tense the pc muscle. Then when I feel my orgasm starting I let go of my dick and squeeze my pc muscle hard for as long as it takes. I usually find that if I'm lay on my bed I end up arching my back hard against my bed, I've found it to be a powerful thing for me. If that is what happens to you, I'm sure you'd know it because you'd really feel it.
Often during this I will get a little bit of cum, but not a lot, so then usually I wait a minute and carry on stroking, using the bit of cum sometimes as lube. I don't usually use lube because I'm uncut so find it better to just stroke my cock and let the foreskin slide up and down, but when I do this multiple orgasm thing I sometimes like to pull back my foreskin and stroke over the head more, only if well lubed though.
I don't do this too often really because it can get quite tiring, if I do then I usually do it before bed. I can usually get about 3 orgasms without ejaculating, and then the final time I tend to do it and when I'm clenching my pc muscle I just grab my dick and squeeze it hard, and that's usually enough to make me ejaculate, whilst still getting the feeling of the orgasm, as it tends to feel better than a 'regular' orgasm.

It's been a while since I tried it actually, might have a go later tonight if I feel like it

[LoveThyself!]

I was going to tell you the words I use to describe the two different feelings/situations, ilike, but John here has hit the nail on the head. I edge to just before the point of ejaculation then do various things (PC Squeeze, Visualizations, shift in focus, breathing exercises, etc.) to halt the 'inevitable' and experience what I call orgasm. I can do this as many times as I want and the only fluid production typically is precum.

When I or my partner is ready, I'll go past the edge and have a climax (orgasm with come) and depending on if I want to go further or just stop, can use some of those techniques listed above to alter the intensity of the climax. That's not always 100%, of course... with the right person in the right situation, those orgasm/climax combos can be full intensity and after a brief rest ( a few minutes ) I'm ready to go again.

But basically, for me, orgasm is the pleasurable feelings/muscle contractions whereas climax is the production of come, and with the right practice and some patience, the two are totally seperable and able to be experienced individually or together.

[johnblob]

That's how I feel - separating the orgasms and the climax, that is how I like to work on it, that way I can have multiple orgasms before one big, final climax. I don't have any experience with a partner, but masturbating I like to have a few orgasms some times and then a big messy climax, that's part of the fun sometimes

[whackamole]

as for the video idea: ilikeitalot. I'll make one too and we can share techniques of the glories of shooting and slurping before you lose the desire.

[johnblob]

Last night I was doing this a little, trying anyway. I started just getting myself aroused; watching some videos at my pc, got naked and was stroking a little to get myself hard. Then I went over to my bed, and I have a tube thing that I can stuff something soft into, and roll it in my mattress, so I can lay on top and fuck it hands-free. So I did that for a while, going slow, and when I felt myself getting near I slowed even more. When I started to feel it coming I stopped and clenched my pc muscle, and this made my dick feel extra hard, and I had a pretty good orgasm, but only a little bit of cum.

I then managed to carry on for quite a while, my dick went a little soft but not completely, and it just felt good, especially with the little bit of cum making it more slippery. After a while I started to get a bit tired of that, so I pulled my dick out and just sat back and stroked. I had to do it fast because my dick felt like it was going soft, but I managed to have a normal orgasm then, with normal amount of cum, though it did feel a bit better than usual.

[ilikeitalot]

OK, so you guys are doing the pc-muscle-clench (PMC) thing. I've tried that in the past (long, long ago) but was always unsuccessful. Either my PC muscle was too weak... or my orgasms were too strong lol. I might be better at it now though, so I'll give it another try sometime soon. But really, this thing I've been doing here is more about HAVING an ejaculation (getting some cum)... and clenching the PC muscle prevents the cum from getting out. But I definitely see advantages to the PMC method... you get a nice orgasm, but can still keep going. With my method, I'm thinking the orgasmic feelings aren't nearly as strong. So it depends on what you shooting for... some cum... or a nice orgasm.

Check out this vid. At 6:50, this guy has a huge ejaculation (9 big spurts) then at 9:20 (2.5 minutes later), he as another (2 big spurts). Now how does he manage to do that? Is he just a freak? Or is this learnable by anyone?

I've continued using my new technique at least every other day or two... sometimes multiple times per day. At lunch today, I extracted a handful of thick cum, then while stroking my cock, hovering right at the orgasmic stage, I licked/poured all that cum onto my tongue. (I STILL feel like such a pervert admitting to this. I'm picturing some straight guy here for the first time, reading this, thinking what a homo I must be lol.) Being right on the edge of orgasm while tasting/feeling/viewing that thick, creamy cum all over my tongue was an intense turnon. And it was so much cum, I could distinctly feel it sliding down my throat as I finally swallowed it. I'm still curious about the taste. It has virtually no taste at all. One day, after cumming from a normal orgasm, I'm gonna try to work up the courage to taste that. I want to see if it's got a bitter/yucky taste when it comes out that way.

[LoveThyself!]

Dude, you're so gay!

LOL, as far as the vid (which I didn't watch yet) I've climaxed like that on several occasions. It's a state of mind and a degree of arousal. Those times, I was really, really horny and I also had the most amazing partner with me (either online or in real life) and it seemed like the more we did it, the more I was able to do it. I don't think it is something you can plan or train for... in fact, the spontaneity of the event itself is probably key to making it happen.

Glad to hear you haven't gotten bored with the methods you are using. Quite the opposite, it sounds like. The PC exercises take a long time to master if you want to do it right. It took me several months of very, very adamant and strict training to get it (and that was on top of already having pretty tone muscles down there).

Anyway, keep up the research and keep us posted!

[johnblob]

I think I just managed this, quite by accident really. I was watching some videos and I was right on the edge, and I let go of my cock because I didn't want to cum yet. I let the feeling subside slightly and then I grabbed it again and pulled back my foreskin, planning to shoot soon (and I shoot further with it pulled back) So I did that and the feeling came back suddenly so I let go again, but I felt the muscle contractions that tend to signal an orgasm - but I didn't really feel an orgasm, not really, but I did cum a pretty normal amount. So perhaps it is something you can learn to do, or it can just happen - personally I prefer orgasm without ejaculation to the other way around because it tends to mean I can have a few in a row. Might try to do this again though, just out of curiosity one day.

[ilikeitalot]

but I felt the muscle contractions that tend to signal an orgasm - but I didn't really feel an orgasm, not really, but I did cum a pretty normal amount.

Yeah, that exactly like what I'm doing/feeling. For me, the sensations feel like a normal orgasm at the start, but they kinda fade during/after the first few seconds. And if anyone else is like me, then yes, you can learn to control it and make it happen. When the first spurt or two occurs, I can somehow flip an internal switch (turn something off inside?) to stop the orgasm... yet the ejaculating continues.

But yeah, an orgasm without ejaculation has a lot of benefits too. I think it feels more like a real, full-length orgasm AND you have all of your cum left for the grand finale. I'm gonna try to maintain a regular schedule of PC muscle exercises to build up my holding power. If I can have both techniques in my masturbation toolbox, I'll have lots of options lol.

[johnblob]

I can't really say that I felt like eating my cum afterwards last night, not in the usual way of having an orgasm and then losing interest, more that I've tried it before (after normal orgasms, when I was turned on enough) and didn't really like it all that much lol

You can strengthen your pc muscle easily enough though, just keep clenching and then releasing it, you can do it whenever and wherever, right now at your pc, or if you're at work or whatever. A big part of the orgasm sensation for me when I use that technique is the fact that I'm clenching that muscle to stop myself from ejaculating, but also I feel it through my whole body, like I'm completely tensed up while the orgasm runs through me. Usually if I do this lay on my bed I end up arching my back against the bed, and my dick usually feels harder than ever, though I'm not touching it during that time, it just feels so much more intense than a normal orgasm.

I enjoy doing that, but other than the fact that it's sort of interesting, and probably helps you to have more control over your body, I can't see the benefit of an ejaculation without the orgasm. To me the orgasm is the what I aim for whenever I masturbate. I also try to make it feel good throughout of course, but I'd probably be happier sometimes if I could just orgasm without ejaculating. Funnily enough now that I can do that, but usually I feel so turned on when I do it that I keep going and have a couple more, and by then I feel like making a mess so I like to have a 'normal' orgasm in the end, which tends to mean cumming all over myself.

[tylersdick]

I've had a few times where I came without orgasim. The first time was when I was younger and first discovered masturbating and I had been jerking off a few times that day already and I was watching some porn and just playing with my dick. I think I had already came like twice earlier that day and a little beforehand so I was just slowly working my dick back to being hard. Well I was just playing with it and whatnot when I felt my dick start to twitch and I looked down to see that it had shot out quite a bit of cum but I hadn't orgasimed.

A few years later, kinda the same situation when I was playing with my dick and working up to a really nice ejaculation when my dick just kind of started to flow out cum. It was quite a bit too as I remember and I was so turned on I just started pumping harder and harder as I continued to droll out cum. So after a minute or so, I had an orgasim but the strange thing was that I shot a blank cuz all of my cum had already been pumped out.

Haven't had that happen to me again since, but it sure felt nice!

[s4ua]

I tried it and it was great. WOW a different kind of feeling and more cum.